Natural Ordermage (The Saga of Recluce, #14) by L.E. Modesitt Jr.

Natural Ordermage (The Saga of Recluce, #14)

"An intriguing fantasy in a fascinating world." —Robert Jordan, New York Times bestselling author of The Wheel of Time® seriesRahl, a young apprentice scrivener on the island of Recluce, likes life to work out in his favor. And he has a bad attitude, too. To make sure things go his way, he uses a small amount of order magic in opportunistic moments--but his abilities are starting to get the attention of the Council magisters. So the Council se...

Details Natural Ordermage (The Saga of Recluce, #14)

TitleNatural Ordermage (The Saga of Recluce, #14)
Release DateJan 1st, 1970
GenreFantasy, Fiction, Epic Fantasy

Reviews Natural Ordermage (The Saga of Recluce, #14)

  • Jim
    Read in chronological order, this is great. Recluce has developed from a place of refuge to a hidebound society that is afraid of change & difference, as Rahl finds out. He's not a perfect young man, but a pretty typical one & he faces a lot of tough questions in a stifling society. It's great to get a better look a Hamor & see how some of the early policies Lerial put into place have developed. At first, they don't seem so good, but they grew on...
  • Bryan Brown
    Reading the series in internal chronological order this book is set some 300 years after the events of the last sorta-trilogy of books. We follow a young black mage named Rahl from the island of recluse. This introduces a new kind of mage a "natural" mage. This means one who can do order/chaos skills without having to learn them, he just does. With his enhanced abilities Rahl is highly arrogant and unwilling to let any of the rules of his society...
  • Liviu
    another first volume duology in the Recluce universe, taking place mostly in a unified Hamor ~1500 in the chronology (the first Cyador books with Lorn start the chronology, while the Lerial books take place in Hamor in ~425); same structure as usual, this time following Rahl (slightly unfortunate name as fantasy names go though and one that annoyed me intermittently) who is a natural (doesn't respond well to learning magic, needs to do it intuiti...
  • Yune
    I picked this up just when it fit the mood I needed: in Modesitt's trademark style, it's full of reassuring mundane detail -- but when I say mundane, I don't mean boring. It's all part of the natural rhythm of the characters' lives, from what they eat to how much they have to practice their fighting skills, or even their magical ones. I appreciate that about Modesitt's heroes, as they may have amazing talents, but they have to work to refine them...
  • Kathi
    5/10Another dissatisfied, whiny main character with lessons to learn about order, mages, and himself. Rahl really grated on me. The explanation of why he had so much trouble learning to use order on Recluce and needed to be exiled--that he is a natural ordermage--made sense but came too late to rescue my opinion of the character and the book. The best section was when he was at Luba without his memories and then his training with Taryl as those m...
  • Debra Meyer
    Another one of those ones that seemed to be written by someone else, less one page chapters and sound effects. It wasn't bad a bit too much filler but better then the last ones. I'm reading this in chronological order an the repeat of scenarios has me double checking and I hate that.
  • Chip Hunter
    This book starts out with the familiar setting of a young man of Recluce discovering his order-talents and being exiled to another land to master his abilities on his own, or die trying. 'Natural Ordermage' takes place some time in the far-distant future of when Nylan was founded, during a time in which Recluce is bound by tradition and change is feared. A strong and unschooled natural ordermage (such as Rhal) is a threat to society and cannot be...
  • Jeremy
    Natural Ordermage is one of the newer books from Modesitt, and I had fun with it. What I like about his books are their wholesome feel. They're almost always about a person with skills in a certain profession, and although the adventures of that person are somewhat fantastical, you learn about something simple, like in this case the copying of books and records, throughout the book. There's a logic to all the magic and supernatural content of his...
  • Jeremy Preacher
    Continuing with my at-random rereading of the Recluse books, Natural Ordermage is an interesting counterpoint to The Magic of Recluse. There are definite similarities - both feature somewhat self-obsessed young men who can't grasp the nature and responsibilities of their power, and get sent into exile to grow as people. But as novels, they're vastly different.Natural Ordermage is a mature examination of some of the assumptions that underly the or...
  • Katy M
    This one highlights choices in life and their consequences.I never put spoilers in my reviews.L. E. Modesitt, Jr. writes epic fantasy with political commentary overtones. His world building is impeccable, taking the familiar and giving it a unique twist. His protagonists are usually underdogs who don't fit into the mold cast for them by others in some way, chronicling their struggles to understand themselves and how to find their place in the wor...
  • Abbey
    An interesting look into Hamorian culture and politics (and one which made me as torn between liking and hating Hamor as I had been sure in hating it beforehand), there were still a few things that irked me about this book. The main thing was the main character, Rahl. He is perhaps the only main character of a Recluce book to date that I have instinctively disliked upon meeting.Still, that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It certainly shows how Mod...
  • Henry
    L.E. Modesett's Saga of Recluse series has its strengths and weaknesses. His protagonists tend to have a lot of similarities -- they are poor folks who work hard but born with great magical talents. They leave home and establish themselves in a trade such as a scrivner, blacksmith, or some other endeavor where hard work is well-appreciated. And then, the protagonist is brought into the dominant organization that controls magic in whatever area th...
  • Jessica
    Well, at least the love interest was not another strong-willed, uninterested redhead or I might have stopped reading the book! The plot was very typical for this series: stubborn guy discovers he has wondrous abilities but is misunderstood/exiled/ostracized and must find a new life/purpose.I really did not like the main character, Rahl. Really, really did not like him. He whines and blames others and then wonders why everyone is picking on him. I...
  • David
    I like Modesitt's world-building. I usually like the fact that his main characters usually spend a great deal of time thinking and talking about food and about building things (one gathers woodworking is his hobby). I tolerate the moralizing. And I tolerate the predictability of his characters and plots -- you'd think "main character goes through an ethical quandary, annihilates a civilization, and is made immortal so he's forced to live with the...
  • Peter
    Another of the Recluce series, this time based initially in Recluce and then Hamor. Rahl is an apprentice scrivener who belittles his own order abilities, and as a result finds himself in deeper and deeper trouble, eventually exiled to Hamor. There he finds a mentor in Taryl, mage and ex-Triad.The story uses familiar themes from other Recluce books - Rahl is another scrivener, is trained in arms as a Recluce exile, and sees duty as a city guard s...
  • Jay Hendricks
    A new book in the saga of Recluse, this book feels like it could easily end up turning into another trilogy like some of the other books Modesitt has done. This book follows a fellow going by the name of Rahl, who unlike many of the other ordermages written about in Recluse, can't be trained or taught by the normal methods. Instead he has to find his way through "feelings" since all about him and his abilities comes naturally to him. Still the bo...
  • Brett Bydairk
    A more obvious than usual look at one of Modesitt's themes: actions have consequences, and even if the action is moral, is the consequence moral? Can there be moral consequences for immoral actions?A natural ordermage, Rahl, is forcibly made aware of this by being sent to Nylan to be trained, but his powers grow along with the troubles he gets into. Sent into exile to Hamor as a clerk, he eventually becomes a mage-guard for he emperor, learning s...
  • Tony
    Second time I have read it, so I do like it. I really like the mentor character of Taryl. My one complaint is that, like all Modesitt books, belief in a divine being is frowned upon. What I mean is that most of his main characters and heroes seem to be, at best, agnostic, and seem to think little of those who follow some religion. If it was not so blatant and was not pretty much every main character I have read so far, I would not mind so much, b...
  • Paul
    Natural Ordermage was very similar in theme to the rest of the Recluce series which is to stop blaming others for your circumstances and take responsibility for your own future. The ending was a bit unsatisfying in that Rahl didn't really get sufficient closure against those that had wronged him. However, there is a sequel.
  • Gary O'Brien
    Finished it a few weeks ago. Good like all the rest. Can't be sure without looking back in the other ones but some of the natural laws of order/chaos seem to have changed just a little bit from the early books of this series.Outstanding book all the same. I am now reading Mage-Guard of Hamor, which is the continuation of this one.
  • Katherine
    Of all the characters in the Recluse world, Rahl is perhaps the one I find the most human. He has more faults and flaws than the others seem to; especially his teenaged angst belief that the world owes him something. But whining aside, I do prefer this book to the second with Rahl. It shows much more development and seems to have a better flow.
  • Greyor
    Enjoyed returning to the world of Recluce. I don't need to own the books anymore, but I'm looking forward to finishing the series at least. An interesting look at the continent of Hamor, explored in detail.
  • Sophie
    Well thought through look at what happens when someone has a different learning style within a structured society. Enjoying the chance to understand more of Hamor's society.Have to admit I was very glad when Rahl finally stops whinging so much!
  • Brian Hagedorn
    A typical Recluse novel. As formulaic as they often can be, this one is still interesting due in part by the main character and his angst against others for his predicaments.
  • Mary Mackie
    Still a wonderful series. The details and soul searching pull you in.
  • Praveen Mathew
    Going by his usual plots, this something bit different. We get to see more in depth study of Order and its analysis in here.My favourite of the series.
  • Jon
    A very good addition to the Saga of Recluce. Another page turner. Modesitt has a way of sucking me into his world and the main character(s).
  • Karl
    The Saga of Recluce is one of my favorite fantasy series. And this is a fine entry. The first book of a two book series. Highly recommended.
  • Craig
    Re-read, 7/15.